| Sons | Grand-sons | |
Tortoise   Tiger ( Young Tiger) x Rush ( Lamphier's) |
Betsey (1880) Gamester x Tortoise |
Carmen (form Patti) (uk-can 1884)  Toreador (1881) x Betsey (1880) |
Patti (form Carmen)(uk-can 1884)  Toreador (1881) x Betsey (1880) |
| Sons | Grand-sons | |
| Tortoise Tiger ( Young Tiger) x Rush ( Lamphier's) |
Betsey (1880) Gamester x Tortoise |
Carmen (form Patti) (uk-can 1884) Toreador (1881) x Betsey (1880) |
| Patti (form Carmen)(uk-can 1884) Toreador (1881) x Betsey (1880) |